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How would you compare live poker and online poker?
On the one hand, whether you play poker in a casino or play poker on a computer, it's still the same game. A flush beats a straight in both. Players in both games bet and bluff and deliver and receive bad beats. Many of the skills developed in one format translate readily to the other.
Then again, many players have persuasively argued the games couldn't be more different. It's like comparing chess and checkers, some have suggested. Online poker, a video game, live poker more likened to a sport. One's 'virtual,' the other 'real.'
There was a time in the not too distant past that the contrast between 'live poker players' and 'online poker players' was quite stark. Many pros belonged to one group and essentially ignored the other. You'd hear stories of 'live pros' venturing online and not faring well (with some complaining the game wasn't 'real' poker). Then there would be 'online pros' showing up at live events and struggling with handling cards and chips or game etiquette.
Today there is a lot more overlap, with most top players and many at all levels playing both online and live. Those who do engage in both have to be aware of the differences between how the respective games tend to play.
What are some of the differences between live and online poker? And among these differences, which are the most important ones for players making the jump from one to the other? As you think of an answer, here are several differences to consider.
Bet Sizing
In live cash games you'll often encounter different bet sizing than happens online, primarily when it comes to opening preflop raises. While an online cash game might feature players opening for 2x, 2.5x, or 3x the big blind, in live games it isn't unusual to encounter players opening for 5x or 6x or even more, particularly in the lower-stakes live games (e.g., $1/$2 NL).
Tournaments are a different story, although there, too, you'll occasionally find live players overbetting, particularly inexperienced ones who struggle with keeping track of pot sizes.
Multi-Way vs. Heads-Up Pots
That said, in the live games you'll often encounter looser play, generally speaking, in the form of players doing a lot more calling. One consequence of this trend is more multi-way pots occurring live than online where the preflop betting more typically creates heads-up situations.
It isn't that unusual in a live cash game session to witness a number of limpers preflop and/or several callers of a preflop raise, thereby creating a multi-way situation.
Calling vs. Folding
Meanwhile, if live players are often looser than online players with their preflop calls, postflop things tend to go differently. You'll find that online players are in fact more apt to make big postflop calls with weak- or medium-strength hands than tends to happen live. That means big river bluffs tend to get through more often live than happens online (although of course, everything depends on the player and situation).
One explanation for this tendency is the fact that it is easier for many players simply to click a 'Call' button than to make a tough call live. Not having to endure in person the embarrassment of guessing wrong with such calls make them easier online.
Frequency of Bad Beats
In part because of this tendency to run into more callers online, many players report experiencing 'bad beats' more often online than happens live. This is especially so at the 'micros' and lower limits online, where the small stakes further encourage calls with subpar hands that occasionally do outdraw better ones.
The sense that the bad beats are coming more often online is enhanced, of course, by another big difference between live and online poker, namely...
The Pace of the Game
One of the more obvious surface-level differences between live and online poker is the pace of play. Online poker plays considerably faster than live poker, and some who prefer playing online find the live game too tedious to tolerate. Whereas you might be dealt around 30 hands per hour in a no-limit hold'em cash game, online you'll see 60 hands per hour (or more) at a given table and even more in short-handed games. The ability to multi-table online also means playing a lot more hands per hour than is possible live.
For this reason, the impression of getting more bad beats online can be exaggerated. The fact is, you can seem to experience more of everything online because you're playing many more hands, which in turn affects...
Variance in Online Poker vs. Live Poker
'Variance' is a term often used generically to describe the 'swings' one endures in poker, with the higher 'variance' translating into bigger gains and losses in the short term when compared to your results over longer periods. The faster pace of play online again artificially affects what the 'short term' actually is. You might play a week online and log 10 times the number of hands you'd play if you played live poker for a week, thus giving the impression that your variance has been accelerated greatly.
Even if it is an artificially-created difference, this 'higher' variance when playing online can mean faster, more marked bankroll swings over shorter periods than generally happens live. That means bankroll management has to be approached differently when playing online, where you generally want to maintain a bigger bankroll (in terms of cash game buy-ins or tournament entry fees) than you need when playing live.
Online Tells vs. Live Poker Tells
An obvious difference when playing online is not being able to see your opponents — or for them to be able to see you — which means, of course, the role of 'physical tells' gets omitted from the online game. This also obviously affects table talk, which can be important in live games but becomes a non-factor when playing online (aside from chatbox 'talk'). Experienced live players maintain it is much easier to 'profile' opponents when playing live, especially less experienced ones who tend to give away lots of information very quickly at the table.
That doesn't mean there aren't any 'tells' in online poker. Check out '7 Ways to Get Better Reads When Playing Online Poker' by Nathan Williams for discussion of several examples.
Relative Stakes
One last difference we can add to the list concerns how stakes compare between live and online poker. For various reasons, an online game played at the same limit as a live game will usually feature higher-skilled players, relatively speaking. For example, a live $1/$2 NL cash game generally won't have as many tough opponents around the table as you'll find in a typical $1/$2 NL online game, in part because while there usually aren't any lower-stakes games available live, there are plenty of them online (down to just pennies).
Some have suggested as a rule of thumb a '10-to-1' guideline when comparing live and online stakes — e.g., a $0.50/$1 NL game online would play as 'tough' as a $5/$10 NL game live. Of course, you'll still encounter both good and bad players at all levels, both live and online, so don't take this as a rule without exceptions.
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Those are some of the most significant differences between live and online poker. Which would you consider to be the biggest difference out of all of these? Share your thoughts in a comment below.
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The Bet sizes IN ONLINE POKER ARE MODEST
A stack of chips.It is quite normal to see large open raise size when compared to the blind in live games.
In the online game, you might have an open raise whose size is 3-4 times. But in live games, it’s quite normal to see a raise that is 5-8 times the blind. Sometimes you might even find someone raising 10 times the amount.
This effectively changes the stack sizes in the games.
So in effect, bigger bet sizes are played in live poker while smaller bet sizes are played in online poker.
Information is key
The fact that you get to see real players when you are playing live poker provides a lot of information.
You can observe what the other players are doing, hand movements, body twitches, etc.
Online players find it difficult to hide their emotions when playing the game.
While live players get a lot of information from the HUD display that they have on their screen.
Einstein calculating poker odds.So gaining the information from huds and body tells is one thing but using it to your advantage should be something that you should work on.
Giving away information is something to work on as well; other players also get the same information as you would so avoid giving away a telltale sign that others might take up and use to their advantage.
The pace of the game
Keep up the pace!There is a massive difference in the speed of both the games.
So in live poker, you would be lucky to see more than 30 hands per hour, this is a seriously slow pace.
While in online poker you would get to see more like 60 hands per hour, which is twice the rate you would see in live poker.
So if you are playing multiple tables in an online poker session, you could end up playing like 200 hands in an hour.
This has two problems with live poker, it makes it slow and tedious, and the other thing is that it will take a long time to make a decent pot size.
The problem with live games being slow, plus you cannot play multiple tables at a time. This dramatically reduces your chances of growing your pot quickly.
Also, hand history is not saved, so all the information and database saving has to be done by hand in live poker.
You would need to fight the boredom caused by playing live poker, and the pace hurts your games.
Dynamics
Game dynamics.The dynamics of live and online poker are different and to play these games, different approaches should be taken.
In Live poker, since you are being continuously seen and you can see the other players, you should take a more relaxed and passive approach to the game.
This can change once the game starts, but it is the best way to start playing this kind of game.
Live players will give large and small bet sizes depending on the action that is going on, meaning that they are more inelastic with the betting amount.
This is the opposite in online poker; these players are more inelastic with their betting and would bet large amounts when they have a strong hand.
These are some of the dynamics when it comes to playing live and online poker.
So what kind of player are you?
Are you a hot player?As you can see, there are quite a few differences between online poker and live poker.
Both have their pros and cons. Online poker can give you a faster pot size and help you to earn a lot more by playing faster and multiple games at once. Live poker gives you the opportunity to see real-life players. And you can even get the advantage by seeing how they react to certain things that happen only at a table.
The game in online poker is faster than in live poker.
That is another point to think about when you want to play either of the games and you need a cooler head when playing live poker since people can see it, so it is a better game for those who like to think it out.
Of course, when you do choose your game, do make sure you do not overdo by playing too many games. Else you could have boredom setting in and of course, you could end up losing a lot of money.
Also be careful about how you play the game and never over bet or go over your bankroll. That is one of the best tips that can be provided when playing poker.